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"They can torture, they can kill this person": Volunteers patrol Ukraine's cyber front during war

There are lives on the line. Volunteers are working to protect Ukraine from cyberattacks during the Russian invasion

first of all this war is very digital anastasi works in cyber security in kiev after the invasion began she sheltered in a mountain village volunteering to protect the country's digital resources for one ukraine deployed a messaging channel so people could send in pictures and info about russian troop movement crucial details that could help win or lose a war but someone has to secure it making sure no info can leak out and any pictures once sent disappear from phones without a trace we are talking about people's lives because if someone will send the picture of russian tank and then this picture will appear on their phone russian accuplacers can basically they search for phones they search in the phone that they can find this picture and then can they can touch her they can kill this person she and others help for free trying to protect sites and apps for refugees humanitarian aid and more so much is digital in this country ukrainians can hold their passports and driver's licenses on their phones use government apps to access emergency war funds and sign up for air raid siren alerts at the same time people's locations and identities are more sensitive than ever i'm helping as much companies as i can i'm doing as much research as i can i am like trying to inspire my colleagues uh to you know not to to be depressed and to continue doing things because again we've held these special skills and we can use them russia has carried out cyber attacks on ukraine for years one of the first big hacks in 2015 shut down power for almost a quarter million people during winter it was a hack heard around the world showing how cyber attackers could cause chaos in crucial industrial machines yeah yeah sergey investigated that attack analyzing the malware called black energy that russia used in the blackout it was very interesting to investigate this incident did you think at that time that russia was practicing for war i think yes sergey is now volunteering to fend off more russian cyber attacks during the war but he says russia has actually helped the country prepare by pummeling ukraine with digital attacks not just in 2015 but many more in the years that followed wreaking havoc on government banks and critical infrastructure please attack and all other attacks which which we we saw in ukraine yeah all of them helped us to improve our security defense services we can't help our country on the battlefield yeah on the physical battlefield so we decided to help our country on the cyber battlefield yeah in fact russia tried to shut down power again in ukraine with a cyber attack in april this year but failed we always have to be grateful to our enemies you know who make us stronger marina also volunteers day and night trying to keep attackers out of ukraine's sensitive data and critical equipment she says phone and internet services must be protected in this war not just so people can send enemy troop info but to stay ahead of attacks and bombings when possible it would be a lot of havoc if people would not have information and would not know where to move why to move what to expect luckily she says russia needs phone and internet to wage war so they're not wiping out all telecommunication allowing ukrainians to stay in contact people feel anxiety without information it really can cause panic so people would prefer to have information internet rather than food because if you have information you are mentally much stronger and you can you know survives the discomfort of being hungry for marina sergei and anastasi there is much more work to do [Music] each day brings new pain suffering and death [Music] how do you keep yourself goi