"A literal reading of the Bible simply is a mistake; I mean it’s just wrong" - Carl Sagan on October 4, 1985, as told to Studs Terkel.

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The incomprehensible vastness of the universe, the wonder of our own place in it all…

Carl Sagan was able to explain the science of space in a way everyone could understand.

Among his long list of roles and accomplishments, the Cornell professor and NASA advisor is possibly best known for the 13-part television series,

Cosmos, which reached millions of people worldwide and sealed his place as celebrity scientist.

Maybe he was teased a bit for his tendency to say “billions”, a lot. But Carl Sagan had this amazing talent for explaining the scientific wonders of the universe

without losing the wonder. When he spoke about the science of space, he captured imaginations and held people in thrall.

As part of our special series, The Experimenters -- we’re uncovering interviews with the icons of science, technology, and innovation --

we found this conversation between Studs Terkel and Carl Sagan in the WFMT Studs Terkel Radio Archive. Following “Contact,”

the book he wrote with wife Ann Druyan - and the major motion picture that followed it --

Carl Sagan spoke with Studs all about our continuing search for intelligent life out there, including how, for a long time, Hollywood just got it wrong.

https://blankonblank.org/interviews/carl-sagan-extraterrestrials-religion-aliens-life-planets-mars-galaxies-stars/

https://ufo-videos.com/project-serpo-human-alien-exchange-program-after-2-years-on-serpo-team-members-lose-track-of-time/

Have you ever heard of Project Serpo, an alleged human-alien exchange program that was approved by JFK? Supposedly, 12 Americans were sent to planet Serpo, in exchange for one of the planet's inhabitants, an "Eben". Did this human-alien exchange program really take place? What do we know about this program?

The final scene in Close Encounters allegedly based on the exchange program. You can even count the 12 people who are ready to board the ship (minus Richard Dreyfus character)